FW: changes for 2005N regarding recent movers

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I am concerned with HUD's proposal to drop the previous residence questions for groups other than the head.  These questions are very important to understanding the dynamics of household movements.  We know by anecdote that many household moves do not involve the whole household moving from one place to another, e.g. two individuals get married and buy a home together (at least that is the old fashion way).  But analysis of this data in the past has shown that the dynamics are much more interesting with people coming from as many as three different situations into one.  I did some research on these patterns in 1994 and found 40 percent of the households that moved had people "arriving" from more than one prior household.  Even more interesting, 29 percent of the households who did not report moving still had some change in their composition from move-ins or move-outs.  Said another way, just slightly over half (52 %) of all households remained in place with no change in their composition (between 1989 and 1991).  No other data source contains the richness of household dynamics that the AHS holds.  Perhaps some culling of the breadth of questions could be considered, but I would not like to see the basic concept of tracking multiple groups and their previous housing eliminated.
 
David Crowe
National Association of Home Builders

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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:38 AM
To: Crowe, Dave
Subject: AHS: changes for 2005N regarding recent movers


From: American Housing Survey (AHS) ListServ <ahs@huduser.gov>

As I've mentioned before, we are planning on making some changes to the AHS
instrument beginning in 2005 in order to improve our data on income,
manufactured housing, and assisted living, among other things. Since the
interview is already so long, we are looking for ways to reduce the questions
in other areas. Below is one proposal that the HUD and the Census Bureau have
been discussing. I'd appreciate any comments you care to make.

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1) One of the changes adopted for the 2005N is to ask the mover questions which
formerly were asked for 3 mover groups, only for the reference person.

These items include the following information about the previous residence:
location
structure type
tenure
condo/coop status
number of occupants
did previous reference person move here
was a relative the owner
were costs more/less than current unit


2) We would like to propose, if possible, that we also drop the questions that
set up the mover groups among the household members. This is a complex set of
programs (and associated edits) which would have little relevance if no
additional questions were asked based on the groupings. Data users could still
identify movers from the month and year moved in data collected for all
household members. They would only lose the information on whether persons
with the same move-in date came from the same previous residence.

Since we don't know your uses of the mover group information, we don't know if
this is, in fact, vital data. If so, there is no reason to consider
this suggestion.

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Dav Vandenbroucke
Economist
U.S. Dept. HUD
david_a._vandenbroucke@hud.gov
202-708-1060 ext. 5890










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